Iowa Caucus Projections & Discussion

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I'm going with Rick Santorum to edge out Ron Paul due to late breaking voters who figure he's not Mitt Romney,and not nearly as crazy as Ron Paul,who finishes a strong second. Weather should be fairly mild so that could help Santorum versus Paul's crazed supporters who would show up to vote even if a Category 5 hurricane was forecast. Mitt Romney ends up 3rd.

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I'm pretty darn happy with the results last night. Mittens may have won by a few votes but Santorum is closing fast. Michelle Bachmann is dropping out. Guess where her supporters are going? Hint:Not to the guy whose name rhymes with Sh*t.

Our Crazy Uncle Ronnie Paul finished a respectable 3rd which prompted the "Quitta From Wasilla" "Caribou Barbie" to weigh in with
‘The GOP Had Better Not Marginalize Ron Paul And His Supporters’ After Iowa

Rick Perry has announced that he plans to continue to make a fool of himself and is not dropping out

Last,but not least,with his poor performance last night, there's a good possibility that Newt Gingrich may go off his leash. Me thinks the days of his "positive campaigning" are over.

Meanwhile we're in for a real treat...Back to Back Clown Car Debates this weekend!!!
January 7, 2012 9pm ET on ABC
Location: Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire
Sponsor: ABC News and WMUR
Participants: TBD

January 8, 2012 9am ET on NBC (Yes, 9am)
Location: Chubb Theatre at the Capitol Center for the Arts in Concord, NH
Sponsor: NBC News, Facebook and the Union Leader
Participants: TBD
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Artie60438 wrote:

I'm pretty darn happy with the results last night. Very Happy

Mittens may have won by a few votes but Santorum is closing fast. Michelle Bachmann is dropping out. Guess where her supporters are going? Hint:Not to the guy whose name rhymes with Sh*t.

Yeah. Well IMHO, Santorum just isn't a viable candidate. He's not going to win in New Hampshire. Or South Carolina. Or Florida.

I wonder who Happy Jack supports... now that the field is set?

I don't think there is any doubt that Romney will win the nomination. And I still think he should pick Huckabee as his running mate.

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Scorpion wrote:

Yeah. Well IMHO, Santorum just isn't a viable candidate. He's not going to win in New Hampshire. Or South Carolina. Or Florida.

I don't think there is any doubt that Romney will win the nomination.

If this were a normal year I would totally agree with you but let's face it,this is not the Republican Party of old. It's been hijacked from the right and they don't like Romney. Those debates this week are going to be interesting to say the least. I also think that Romney's refusal to release his tax returns is eventually going to become a major issue. My gut feeling is that he doesn't pay too much in taxes despite being worth between 200 and 250 million dollars.

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And I still think he should pick Huckabee as his running mate.

Huckabee hasn't endorsed him yet and has said that he's not endorsing anyone until after Fla at the least.

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I wonder who Happy Jack supports... now that the field is set?

HaHaHa. Good luck with that. I've been trying to get an answer out of him since 2008.

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Artie60438 wrote:

I also think that Romney's refusal to release his tax returns is eventually going to become a major issue. My gut feeling is that he doesn't pay too much in taxes despite being worth between 200 and 250 million dollars.

There is no question that Romney will have to release his returns. The pressure to release them will continue to grow, and the fallout if he continues to delay will definitely be damaging. But who knows? He may wait until after he has the nomination.

Artie60438 wrote:

Huckabee hasn't endorsed him yet and has said that he's not endorsing anyone until after Fla at the least.

Yeah. Well all I'm saying is that Romney will need to pick a running mate that will appeal to the far right. Huckabee fits the bill, and he is also from a Southern state, which would balance the ticket regionally as well.

Artie60438 wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

I wonder who Happy Jack supports... now that the field is set?

HaHaHa. Good luck with that. I've been trying to get an answer out of him since 2008.

Actually, I'm just curious. I know that he wanted Christie to run. Now that Christie is out of the picture and the primary season is officially underway, perhaps he'll indicate which of the remaining candidates he prefers... or perhaps not.

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Scorpion wrote:

There is no question that Romney will have to release his returns. The pressure to release them will continue to grow, and the fallout if he continues to delay will definitely be damaging. But who knows? He may wait until after he has the nomination.

Huntsman brought it up today but I don't think he's going to be in the debates. I think Romney's taxes are a real soft spot. If the other candidates were smart they'd press him on that issue,although I don't think anyone else has released theirs either with the exception of Huntsman. Maybe Ron Paul?

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Yeah. Well all I'm saying is that Romney will need to pick a running mate that will appeal to the far right. Huckabee fits the bill, and he is also from a Southern state, which would balance the ticket regionally as well.

That makes sense.

Artie60438 wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

I wonder who Happy Jack supports... now that the field is set?

HaHaHa. Good luck with that. I've been trying to get an answer out of him since 2008.

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Actually, I'm just curious. I know that he wanted Christie to run. Now that Christie is out of the picture and the primary season is officially underway, perhaps he'll indicate which of the remaining candidates he prefers... or perhaps not.

I wouldn't hold my breath. The righties love to bash Obama,but when you ask them what candidate they're supporting they clam up,

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Artie60438 wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

There is no question that Romney will have to release his returns. The pressure to release them will continue to grow, and the fallout if he continues to delay will definitely be damaging. But who knows? He may wait until after he has the nomination.

Huntsman brought it up today but I don't think he's going to be in the debates.

Yes, Huntsman will be at the debates. His entire strategy is based on doing well in New Hampshire, so he'll be there.

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Scorpion wrote:

Yes, Huntsman will be at the debates. His entire strategy is based on doing well in New Hampshire, so he'll be there.

Thanks. I think you'll get a laugh out of this...
Huntsman acknowledges that the debates are a rare opportunity for him to get equal time in the national media. “If you don’t light your hair on fire and you don’t sign those silly pledges and you don’t have those ‘oops’ moments, you’re not going to get much air time,” he said during an appearance in Concord.

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Here is my predicted result of the New Hampshire Primary...

Romney
Paul
Huntsman
Gingrich
Santorum
Perry

IMHO, it's going to be close race for fourth between Santorum and Gingrich.

There is a possibility that Roemer may actually edge out Perry for 6th. I don't know why the hell Perry is still in the race.

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Scorpion wrote:

Here is my predicted result of the New Hampshire Primary...

Romney
Paul
Huntsman
Gingrich
Santorum
Perry

IMHO, it's going to be close race for fourth between Santorum and Gingrich.

I'm going with Huntsman for 2nd. He got off what I thought was the best line of the weekend debates when after Romney criticized him for working in the Obama admin,he turned to him and said "That's exactly what's wrong with politics today". He got a big applause. for that.

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I don't know why the hell Perry is still in the race.

Ego or just plain old stupidity. His best applause line this weekend came when he actually managed to correctly name the the three government offices he'd shut down. Rolling Eyes

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Artie60438 wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

Here is my predicted result of the New Hampshire Primary...

Romney
Paul
Huntsman
Gingrich
Santorum
Perry

IMHO, it's going to be close race for fourth between Santorum and Gingrich.

I'm going with Huntsman for 2nd. He got off what I thought was the best line of the weekend debates when after Romney criticized him for working in the Obama admin,he turned to him and said "That's exactly what's wrong with politics today". He got a big applause. for that.

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I don't know why the hell Perry is still in the race.

Ego or just plain old stupidity. His best applause line this weekend came when he actually managed to correctly name the the three government offices he'd shut down. Rolling Eyes

Perry's a spoiler. As long as that list is filled with people, the primaries favor Romney. I for one hope this becomes a long and drawn out battle, and if it's still relevant when they finally get to Indiana you'd better believe I'm going to crash the Republican primary to try to make the fight last a little longer.

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paul87920 wrote:

Perry's a spoiler. As long as that list is filled with people, the primaries favor Romney. I for one hope this becomes a long and drawn out battle, and if it's still relevant when they finally get to Indiana you'd better believe I'm going to crash the Republican primary to try to make the fight last a little longer.

Yeah. Well to be a "spoiler," Perry needs to actually get some votes. I thnk the fact that Buddy Roemer may beat him speaks volumes about Perry's effectiveness as a "spoiler." If he does actually get beaten today by Roemer, I just can't imagine Perry staying in the race.

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Scorpion wrote:

Here is my predicted result of the New Hampshire Primary...

Romney
Paul
Huntsman
Gingrich
Santorum
Perry

IMHO, it's going to be close race for fourth between Santorum and Gingrich.

There is a possibility that Roemer may actually edge out Perry for 6th. I don't know why the hell Perry is still in the race.

Damn, Scorpion!!!
Whatcha got for the playoffs and Super Bowl?

Results for New Hampshire Republican Primary (U.S. Presidential Primary)

Jan 10, 2012 (68% of precincts reporting)

Mitt Romney 58,395 38%
Ron Paul 36,104 23.5%
Jon Huntsman 25,779 16.8%
Newt Gingrich 15,037 9.8%
Rick Santorum 14,974 9.7%
Rick Perry 1,134 0.7%
Michele Bachmann 204 0.1%
Other 2,103 1.4%

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Scorpion wrote:

Yeah. Well to be a "spoiler," Perry needs to actually get some votes. I thnk the fact that Buddy Roemer may beat him speaks volumes about Perry's effectiveness as a "spoiler." If he does actually get beaten today by Roemer, I just can't imagine Perry staying in the race.

Never try to predict what a moron will do. Perry is staying on despite finishing 6th with 0.7% of the vote. Rolling Eyes

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happy jack wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

Here is my predicted result of the New Hampshire Primary...

Romney
Paul
Huntsman
Gingrich
Santorum
Perry

IMHO, it's going to be close race for fourth between Santorum and Gingrich.

There is a possibility that Roemer may actually edge out Perry for 6th. I don't know why the hell Perry is still in the race.

Damn, Scorpion!!!
Whatcha got for the playoffs and Super Bowl?

Results for New Hampshire Republican Primary (U.S. Presidential Primary)

Jan 10, 2012 (68% of precincts reporting)

Mitt Romney 58,395 38%
Ron Paul 36,104 23.5%
Jon Huntsman 25,779 16.8%
Newt Gingrich 15,037 9.8%
Rick Santorum 14,974 9.7%
Rick Perry 1,134 0.7%
Michele Bachmann 204 0.1%
Other 2,103 1.4%

Kind of impressive, isn't it? Just lucky, I guess.

Artie60438 wrote:

Never try to predict what a moron will do. Perry is staying on despite finishing 6th with 0.7% of the vote.

Hey, he beat Roemer, didn't he? Perry is on a roll!

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Scorpion wrote:

paul87920 wrote:

Perry's a spoiler. As long as that list is filled with people, the primaries favor Romney. I for one hope this becomes a long and drawn out battle, and if it's still relevant when they finally get to Indiana you'd better believe I'm going to crash the Republican primary to try to make the fight last a little longer.

Yeah. Well to be a "spoiler," Perry needs to actually get some votes. I thnk the fact that Buddy Roemer may beat him speaks volumes about Perry's effectiveness as a "spoiler." If he does actually get beaten today by Roemer, I just can't imagine Perry staying in the race.

If Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich can make comebacks I have no reason to believe that Perry can't. Hell they're letting Ron Paul do things and that's just mildly amusing at best. Just seems like the entire race can be best summed up by saying that you have Romney v. Not Romney.

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paul87920 wrote:

If Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich can make comebacks I have no reason to believe that Perry can't. Hell they're letting Ron Paul do things and that's just mildly amusing at best.

The difference is that Perry just comes across as being stupid or at the very least just not up to the job. You can get away with saying crazy things but when you keep drawing a blank in the middle of presenting your talking points it looks terrible. Even his attempts at self deprecating humor make him look foolish like on Saturday when he finally was able to recite the 3 gov't agencies he would dismantle and the crowd applauded him more for his being able to remember than to his talking point.

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Just seems like the entire race can be best summed up by saying that you have Romney v. Not Romney.

True. Even though Romney is firmly in the drivers seat more people vote for someone else.

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paul87920 wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

paul87920 wrote:

Perry's a spoiler. As long as that list is filled with people, the primaries favor Romney. I for one hope this becomes a long and drawn out battle, and if it's still relevant when they finally get to Indiana you'd better believe I'm going to crash the Republican primary to try to make the fight last a little longer.

Yeah. Well to be a "spoiler," Perry needs to actually get some votes. I thnk the fact that Buddy Roemer may beat him speaks volumes about Perry's effectiveness as a "spoiler." If he does actually get beaten today by Roemer, I just can't imagine Perry staying in the race.

If Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich can make comebacks I have no reason to believe that Perry can't.

There is no way that Perry will make a "comeback." Hell, CNN had to bend the rules just to allow Perry to participate in the upcoming debate in South Carolina.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/01/cnn-waives-rules-lets-perry-debate-110534.html

Perry is done. It's long past time to "stick a fork" in him.

paul87920 wrote:

Hell they're letting Ron Paul do things and that's just mildly amusing at best. Just seems like the entire race can be best summed up by saying that you have Romney v. Not Romney.

Yeah. Well I would argue that Paul is a special case, and his support is independent of the "Not Romney" vote. To a lesser extent, the same is true of Huntsman.

If the "not Romney" movement has any chance at all of succeeding, the only 2 viable "spoilers" are Santorum and Gingrich. All Perry can do at this point is draw support from the "not Romney" candidates. If that's what you mean by "spoiler," then you are correct.

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Santorum's Communist Ties

This article is full of the lols